• 01 Jul, 2024
• Dr. David Koivuranta

Back to Basics: Prioritizing the Fundamentals of Health and Nutrition

Magazica: Today, we are delighted to have with us Dr. David Koivuranta, a renowned chiropractor and health consultant at the Toronto Neck and Back Pain Clinic, and in Time Health Management. With a passion for improving workplace health and a deep understanding of the interconnectedness of various health factors, Dr. David is here to share his insights and almost three decades of experience on different topics, from ergonomics to the nervous system’s role in health. So, let’s dive into the conversation. Dr. David, welcome.

Dr. David Koivuranta: Thank you for having me.

Magazica: First, could you tell us a bit about your journey? What inspired you to become a chiropractor and health consultant, and just before that, in a very short way, just enlighten our readers. What is the service that chiropractic provides?

Dr. David Koivuranta: By definition, a chiropractor is interested in the health and function of the spine and nervous system, but they also look at the entire skeletal system, including all joints and functioning parts of the body. They’re one of the largest holistic health practitioners in the world, very interested in helping people stay well without drugs and surgery. So, it’s a significant part of people’s wellness and lifestyle. But also, you know, 90% of people go to a chiropractor for what we’re best known for, which is back and neck pain.

Magazica: And what inspired you for the journey?

Dr. David Koivuranta: I’ll share a brief story as best I can because, over the years, the story has become more and more relevant. If I look back in the moment, it may not have been seen quite as intertwined. But looking back, it’s quite interesting. There are a few things that came into play. In high school and university, I was a competitive middle and long-distance runner, and our coach got our running club sponsored by a chiropractor, up in Thunder Bay, Ontario. Wonderful gentlemen! He was my 1st chiropractor, and I had the pleasure of working with him before I moved to Toronto from Thunder Bay and we went. There was nothing wrong with us. We had no pains or problems. But we went for two reasons: to prevent injuries and to improve performance. That was my first exposure to chiropractic, not for neck or back pain, but for the lifestyle benefits.

Then, as a patient under his care, I unfortunately had an accident that he helped me rehabilitate through. So, I learned the value – not only in wellness but also in how effective chiropractic could be when there is a problem.

But a little bit of backstory, when I was very young in elementary school, I had a lung sickness. And they put me in the hospital for a week in a ventilated bed. It’s one of these things you remember from childhood because it’s pretty dramatic.

Ever after that, whenever I got a cough or a cold, I would tell nobody. I would go home. The doctor had said to my parents, “Hey, if he gets sick, give him this ventilated mist in his room”. I would go home to the basement and hide in this ventilated mist because I didn’t want to go back to a hospital. I did not want to see a doctor and it just didn’t resonate with me. It was not a good experience. It was not a good experience. It wasn’t that I was choosing to live this alternative lifestyle as a child, but I remember thinking, man, this is not, you know, a good way to go. You have to stay healthy to avoid these experiences. So, it’s funny how those different factors came together.

Fast forward to university, I was a chemistry major, and one day I realized I didn’t want to do that for the rest of my life. I was a little bit downtrodden with that. That same day I went for a chiropractic treatment, and the chiropractor could tell something was off. I was in my head too much, and he asked me “What was wrong”, I explained to him the situation with my schooling, and he said to me, “You should be a chiropractor”. Up until that point, even though all those other things had happened, I’d never thought of it until he mentioned it. And then that was it. He set the ball rolling. And here we are.

I apologize for the long story, but it’s kind of interesting how all those factors, you know persons. Experience is very valuable in their life for me and my career and helping people. But everybody kind of has a journey, and it’s kind of exciting when we get to share that story. So I appreciate you asking me.

Magazica: No, that’s very fascinating! Now you see a pattern in your life, as if, in a very dramatic way, you were destined for this path.

Dr. David Koivuranta: Yes, life supports you. You may not see it in the moment, but it’s happening.

Magazica: It’s like, when you reflect much later, you realize that life had its plans for you. You plan something for yourself, and life plans something else.

Dr. David Koivuranta: That’s right, and somewhere in the mix is the journey, and we just try to have fun while we’re doing it.

Magazica: Definitely. Otherwise, we wouldn’t be doing it. You wouldn’t have continued this long.

Dr. David Koivuranta: Exactly.

Magazica: You would switch to another career if you weren’t having fun. While having fun, you’re also helping other people, and that’s why you’re doing it. It’s fantastic to know. So, your answer also addresses our second question. Let’s unpack the practice a bit so that our readers can understand the benefits.

Let’s start with ergonomics and posture correction. Can you share some of the most common posture mistakes people make in their daily lives, and how these can be corrected through ergonomics?

Dr. David Koivuranta: Yes, it’s very timely. Just this week on, I believe on CTV news, on the morning show, they had someone speak about what’s being coined as ‘tech neck.’ A lot of it is due to the technology we’ve been exposed to over time, which will not cease but hopefully improve how we interact with it.

Another interesting story with ergonomics is, if we go back to the Industrial Revolution man designed machines to be able to do many of the tasks, especially the hard physical tasks that were hard on the person that the machines could do it instead. But they soon realized that if the interface between the human and the machine wasn’t comfortable, there would still be an impact on the human running the machine. So, ergonomics was born out of the necessity that okay, you can have a machine to make a job easier or better. But the interface still has to be good. So, it doesn’t impact or hurt the worker. And that’s kind of where ergonomics was born.

And we bring that into modern times. We have these common scenarios still in many physical and labor situations, but the biggest one in an urban setting might be computer work, of course, and hence the ‘tech neck’ that we hear about. There are a lot of things that can be done to help set up ergonomics better. There are chairs, sit-stand stations, and measurements to ensure your screen is in the right position. But with Time Health Management, our corporate health and wellness company, when we’ve done ergonomic assessments, it’s not just about the analytics and mechanics; but it’s also about emphasizing the individual’s habits and patterns.

Let’s take an example, and this is not a knock on anyone; this is just a reflection of human nature: even the executives who have access to the Herman Miller chairs and the beautiful desks, and all the technologies, all the equipment furniture, that’s available to set it up nicely. But if they’re not engaging in it properly and they’re doing it for 6, 8, 10 hours a day, it’s still going to be a problem.

One of the biggest things we can do is watch our habits when using technology, like our phones, tablets, laptops, and computers. We just want to do what our parents always told us when we were younger: sit tall, stand tall. If we can recreate that natural, healthy position for our spine, head, and neck when we’re engaged in the work, we do all day, it’ll save us from problems. It’ll save us from neck pain, back pain, and headaches, and it affects our mood, productivity, and body physiology. It has far-reaching effects, so it’s not about aesthetics. It has far-reaching effects, so it’s not about the aesthetics. We’re all beautiful the way we are, but it does impact the function of the body, especially through the nervous system.

Magazica: Our lifestyle as knowledge workers or content creators is sedentary. We sit in a chair most of the day. If we are not sitting correctly, we are essentially hurting ourselves.

Dr. David Koivuranta: Yeah, that’s an accurate statement.

Magazica: Even if we have a beautiful standing desk or a folding treadmill beneath our table if we are not using it correctly, we are not engaging properly. That’s where ergonomics comes in.

Dr. David Koivuranta: Exactly, case in point. In the last five years, especially through COVID-19, the ‘Sit Stand’ station has become very popular, but there wasn’t a lot of research indicating the full impact of it. Until recently, research shows that roughly every 30 minutes, a worker should try to sit and stand, regardless of how they feel throughout the day, to cycle through that. Finally, even with a lot of standing, for example, people who work retail or are on their feet all day, especially if they’re not moving a lot, still need to move. So, it’s necessary to move, go for a walk, and do some bending, and twisting. You got to take a break and then come back to that work.

Magazica: That leads us to our next question. How can employers implement active workplace plans to enhance employee health and productivity? Can you share a few successful examples, as you have extensive experience in this area?

Dr. David Koivuranta: It’s a case-by-case basis because it depends on a lot of factors and a lot of variables. And it all comes from the top down. How that business is set up, what kind of service or product they’re providing, and who they have working for them the size of the company. So, some of these comments may be higher level or just very generic. But there is a way for every company to strategically implement something for their environment.

Many workplaces operate like that at some percentage, meaning that everybody goes to work. During the day, from a very high level, we would see productivity and every single department, from sales to marketing to administration. We would see that and yet there’s a block or barrier. There’s a portion of the flow that gets stopped when we look at the individual worker.

Individual workers often face stagnation, sitting all day, stressed, with questionable productivity. And how much impediment to the flow, even though it is flowing because their natural fit in that system is not wanting to flow. It’s one of resistance.

So, I hope that makes sense kind of as an analogy because that’s what we would like to do with an active workplace plan is, make sure that that employee, when he comes, he or she comes to work, or they come to work. They fit into there with some kind of flow. They can come and provide their skill based on what they’re educated, trained, and experienced doing, but allow them to do it in a way where there is no stagnation. They sit, stand, get up, move around they’re allowed to take their breaks. They’re allowed to take a lunch they have access to some good quality nutrition or snacks. They’re encouraged to maybe buy a fitness tracker these days, or something to move as part of their work.

But if an environment were set up in that workplace to give that employee a chance to be healthier than when they came, instead of trying to let them be healthy on their own at home. Then the outcome, I think, would be very different. So that’s what our active workplace plan is designed to do. But we would have to match that. It’s very different, say, on an assembly line than it is in the corporate world. In an urban setting in an office tower.

Magazica: It’s very individualistic and contextual, as you mentioned. It’s fascinating how you see the interconnectedness in this approach.

Dr. David Koivuranta: Exactly.

Magazica: In your blog and LinkedIn profile, you focus on five health factors: nutrition, exercise, sleep, stress-related attitude, and nervous system function. How do they interconnect? It’s a unique perspective on overall health.

Dr. David Koivuranta: I think fundamentally as a living organism, some things are inherent as a requirement for our ability to come and experience and have a good life. And in these factors are some of those important key fundamentals we just don’t always acknowledge every day. And because we weren’t born with a manual, we rely on at first our environment to support us and our perspective on health is one from parents, family, friends, and immediate environment. But it’s not always accurate. It’s just duplicated, replicated. And it’s what we call a familial inheritance. Not necessarily genetic. But we do typically what we see other people doing. And we learn to operate in a fashion that we’ve been taught by those surroundings. But it’s not always the best way, right? But some of it is fundamental. We do need to eat because if you try not eating or you don’t eat well, we know most of us have the knowledge of the understanding of the implications of that. If you’ve ever tried to stay up for too long or get too little sleep. It doesn’t take much to understand or feel the implications of that. One of the things that maybe we enjoy doing the least, but we also know as an important factor is our fitness. We’ve been told from many different angles that this activity component is valuable in our lives.

Which one did I miss? Oh, and finances in there, I think. And that’s because one of the biggest stressors, especially in North American culture, is finances.

And our ability to support ourselves comes down to how we approach our finances and not be stressed or worried about it, but also know what to do with them. And as an investment, not just the money, but also our time, and both of those are valuable when it comes to our health. Yeah. And then the last thing that coordinates that all is the nervous system. So, your body has three very, very fundamental requirements. It needs air, it needs food, and it needs water.

And it needs clean, natural sources that are not processed, not refined, not man-made, but nature-made. So again, that’s a whole, other, podcast a whole, other conversation.

Magazica: We’ll explore it in a future session.

Dr. David Koivuranta: Yeah, that’s right. And I’m sure you’ll have some really good guests to cover it. And it’s good because people want to be reminded. Cause it. You know, we are distracted by what’s available in our society. That’s not good for us sometimes. Cause we want to be happy and experience these different things. But it’s just when we consume or have exposure to too much that our nutrition goes downhill. But the interesting thing is the activity or the fitness.

When we speak about activity or fitness, sometimes people always think about the gym and muscles, and having a certain look, and all of that is secondary. None of that is primary. There are two primary concerns with activity and fitness. One of them is functional.

What that means is the person who retains the function of all their body parts throughout a lifetime, their muscles, their joints, their heart, their lungs, their liver, their gallbladder, their spleen. They’re in test on the person who retains the best function of those parts is going to have the best quality of life, and probably also live the longest.

Magazica: Absolutely.

Dr. David Koivuranta: That’s a fundamental right, and motion movement is life for all of those parts, not just our muscles and joints, but all our organs, glands, and blood vessels, they rely on movement in motion to support them. So that’s one fundamental of the activity. And these stagnant, repetitive, sedentary jobs that we do don’t support that.

So, we need to balance that out in our lives cause if we don’t, we start to fall behind, and sickness is the result, one of the sources of sickness. There are multiple, but this is a big one, especially in North American urban settings.

The other important fundamental of activity, though, and that’s why it doesn’t have to be hard. It doesn’t have to be the gym. It just needs to be going out enjoying some kind of movement which we’re designed to do is that air, water, and food that we talked about earlier for our nutrition. It had to get into our tissues, it has to get into the cellular level.

And then, as a byproduct of our tissues using those healthy things we create waste. We’re like a machine, an automobile engine. You put in gas and air, and you get carbon monoxide and water dripping out of the exhaust while we’re no different. We also have waste.

And to drive that waste out of our cells and our tissues and get those toxins out, we have to force it through the system. And that’s what activity does. It gets our lungs breathing firmly. It gets the circulation going, and it gets the air, water, and food into the cells and the waste out.

So now we’re eating well, now we’re moving.

And when we get enough sleep, our body has a good environment to do some healing daily. So all day long we use our body, some good stress, some bad stress, some physical, some sedentary, some mental, and then we have to get ready to do it again the next day. And the only way your body is going to be able to do that is, to take that air, water, and food that we’ve now pushed in and out of the cells and then get some sleep.

Because all the healing and regulatory function happens when we’re sleeping.

So those three in the life cycle for a human being are fundamental, non-negotiable, and very valuable. And most of us know this. It’s just that in human nature we get a choice.

And everybody’s journey is different in terms of those choices. And then your investment in time and money, no matter how much time or money you have. Some people have more money than time. Some people have more time than money. Some people have equal time and money. Some of that has to be spent time and money on those three fundamentals.

And then the thing that coordinates all of it, our behavior, our choices on the cellular level, is your nervous system, and a healthy, functioning nervous system will support you better than any other system in the body better than the circulatory system, better than the muscular, better than the digestive. They’re all important. They all need to work well, but the primary system is your nervous system.

That conversation is something that our young people need to be exposed to early on. So, we can erase some of the programming that might not be accurate from our environments. So those young people can start making choices or decisions that are different than maybe what they might get exposed to, so they can set themselves on a better path to health and wellness and change the negative trend that’s happening in our society, because even though we know. And even though we have all the science and technology, the fact is, the statistics show heart disease, cancer diabetes, they’re all headed in the wrong direction.

And it may be because you and I are not having this conversation with enough people.

Magazica: Yeah, I’m already having a paradigm shift on health and wellness. Whenever we look at it, we look at it from a certain lens, but whenever you move that lens and you move it, you are conversating in a very simplistic manner in very easily accessible terms. And it sounds so logical. Like, how could not I sense that even after reading all those medical journals and everything? How could not I sense that? Because we are the editors, we’re the content creators, so we are not exactly from the medical field, but we talk with lots of medical people. But this type of conversation. Yeah, you’re absolutely right. We should have this, and specifically for the youngsters.

Because their life is going in a direction that should be the right direction. And you have functionality. I never thought of it like that, like even our internal organs need cleaning, need flow. Fantastic, fantastic.

Dr. David Koivuranta: Yeah, great.

Magazica: So, as I said, I’m experiencing a paradigm shift for myself as well.

Dr. David Koivuranta: The thing about that is it gets boring after a while. And we as human beings, you know, there’s something called the shiny object syndrome.

So, someone comes up with some other concept that is some kind of shortcut to a result, or do this instead or well, we found this minute fact in the science that, you know, maybe what we’ve been doing is wrong. Well, no, like you can be, you can major in the minors and distract people for whatever reason or purpose. But these fundamentals, they don’t change. And if someone wants to see results, it doesn’t take much, but it’s boring.

It’s actually pretty boring. If someone repeated this conversation and they heard the same information, they’d be like, yeah, I know all that. I’ve heard it. However, the implementation is weak. So, can you imagine if someone who owned or operated a business decided, wow, I get this! I want my employees to have this. How can I create a workplace where they come and do their best to support our business, but at the same time I give back to them in a very simple way, just providing them an opportunity to be their best through their health? I think that would be because someone’s got to be on us. Someone’s always, like our parents. They were always on us. Someone’s got to be on us, right?

Magazica: Yeah. And does it happen in the dieting industry? A lot like shiny new objects, syndrome. What do you want to do this week?

Dr. David Koivuranta: Yeah, and then we’re just having a conversation. None of this is right or wrong. And again, it is on a case-by-case basis. If someone has a health problem, some of these strategies are very beneficial because they need to make some serious changes.

But then, the sustainability of some of these things is not realistic because it’s not natural. You just need to eat well, not eat. So, you know, this week you have the option of fasting. Maybe you’ll try fasting, or maybe you’ll do a protein paleo diet. Maybe you’ll do Keto, you know. Every year, every season the nutrition textbooks are probably the ones that change the most because the research, as it says, is ongoing. And they find new things.

And then all these different strategies and concepts, all have merit and value. If you took someone who was not eating well and had no concept of good diet or nutrition, and you put them on any one of these plans, they’re going to do well because it’s better than what they were already doing.

But you could also just put them on a reasonable natural, what we’ve known for centuries kind of diet, and they would also do well because it steers them away from the bad things that they’ve probably been doing.

But I don’t know that there are too many people who are eating well and then suffering problems because of it. There would be something else going on that needs to be addressed that’s not nutritional. So, a couple of the most researched diets in the world are the Mediterranean diet, a very good model to follow, and then, the low glycemic load or low glycemic index diet, which just helps eat foods and combinations where it keeps the blood sugar stable. But a Mediterranean diet, you know, that’s if you mentioned the blog earlier. That’s one of the key things that’s mentioned in our blog, that if people follow the Mediterranean diet, they increase the likelihood of having better nutrition.

Magazica: Like it in as it has been tried and tested over centuries.

Dr. David Koivuranta: Correct yeah, fundamental.

Magazica: Fundamental. So, as some of our school teachers sometimes say, or maybe some of our parents say as well go to the basics.

Dr. David Koivuranta: Go to the basics. Yeah, you can’t. You can’t figure out that differential equation unless you know how to add, subtract, multiply, and divide.

Magazica: Yes, yes, yes, yes. So go to the basics, and we just tried and tested over the time. Maybe the basics are boring, but the basics are fundamental.

Dr. David Koivuranta: Yes.

Magazica: Yeah, that’s how I understood you.

Dr. David Koivuranta: Maybe, as another analogy. Even the athletes, professional athletes know

David Koivuranta: that there are complicated drills. There are complicated plans like strategies, but at the same time, unless you’ve got the fundamentals, it is very hard to implement at that higher level.

Magazica: Yes.

Dr. David Koivuranta: But let’s take that and put it back in the workplace. Now you’re an employer, a company, and you’re hiring people to come on to be that athlete. And yet you’re not providing them the fundamentals of giving you what you’re asking them to give you. It’s a conflict of interest.

With ergonomics, if someone worked in a factory or a warehouse, and they drove a forklift, they would have to be licensed, and certified on the use of that forklift. Yes, in most environments.

Magazica: Yes.

Dr. David Koivuranta: But you could be hired to do marketing or advertising, or IT or admin on a computer. And as long as you know how to do the tasks that they’re asking you to do. You don’t need to be licensed or certified on that. How do you sit at a computer? But I think people should. That’s one of the biggest things that could happen is that when someone gets hired, they have to show their employer a manager or supervisor that they understand the basics of ergonomics at the computer. If they don’t, then they need to take training in a course before they start work for that employer on the proper ergonomic setup on a desktop, or a laptop on their phone.

And then at some frequency, quarterly, annually. Get not only their performance review on what they’re supposed to be doing in terms of why they’re hired but also a performance review on ergonomics. I think that would make a huge dent in some of the side effects that are happening, especially in the computer world.

Magazica: Yeah. No wonder. No wonder as one of my previous managers used to say, if you’re working in a corporate sector, and if you’re not taking care of your health, you’re burning the candles from both sides.

Dr. David Koivuranta: Yeah. Very well, said.

Magazica: And that’s why one of the reasons that we started Magazica. Because by doing this our readers will be aware, and they will come across experts like you. They’re very much into it. The conversation is very related to all of us. A natural extension of this conversation is: how do you see, that what are the fitness, plans, and weight management program? What is your perspective on that? How do you want to implement it?

Dr. David Koivuranta: For fitness, research shows that, if you enjoy or like going to the gym and pushing plates and grinding it out, then do it. But many people who have those memberships are there because they know they should be, but they’re not enjoying it. The research shows that if those people instead went out did an activity, badminton, volleyball, swimming, cycling, frisbee soccer. And they kept at that regularly throughout their life.

Or maybe one isn’t enough, because you’re not going to play every day. But maybe if you did, 2 or 3, and one of them could just be walking. Then maybe once or twice a week, you play soccer, and then the 3rd time, maybe you go for a swim. But if we were able to create. And it would help if people enjoyed doing those things. So that’s what I wish for people is they could find something that they love doing so that at the end of the day when they come home it’s been a hard one. Something’s happened, and now it’s evening, and they have a few hours. What am I going to do at that time? I have to go back to work tomorrow. And you know, eat watch TV, or maybe I love playing. I’m going to go out to the courts and play tennis or badminton because I enjoy that. That is a better scenario in that evening than anything. I think it’s hard for people to choose to go to the gym that evening unless they sincerely love the gym. So that’s my hope for people is that they will find something activity that they love to do. There will be minimal resistance to doing it, no matter how they feel, because they enjoy doing it.

And then with the weight loss. Well, weight loss is that’s why it’s such a big industry. It’s much easier to put on than it is to put off. People come into the clinic, and they say, hey, Dr. Dave, I lost 10 pounds. I lost 20 pounds, I say, hey! If you ever want me to help you find those 10 or 20 pounds. I’ll help you do that. No problem, because it’s much easier to put that weight back on. I just say it jokingly. Because I’m kind of in a sarcastic way, congratulating them because it’s not easy to do.

But I think it does come down to those 2 factors, and it does not need to be complicated. But when it gets complicated if that person already has a health challenge or problem medically, they may need a specific strategy that will help make some changes in their body that will make the weight loss easier. And you know the naturopathic profession is very good at helping people identify those blocks or barriers and help them work through them without drugs. Yeah, but short of that, I think it’s almost as easy as long as you’re persistent and consistent, and your patient one pound a week, maybe even half a pound a week. But if it took 5 years, who cares?

Magazica: Yeah.

Dr. David Koivuranta: You know, just stay active and get on that Mediterranean diet. Only eat good stuff. Don’t buy processed refined foods.

Magazica: You have mentioned it twice, and for our readers, can you briefly explain the Mediterranean diet and what they can do?

Dr. David Koivuranta: Yeah. The Mediterranean diet avoids processed and refined foods. It’s mostly clean sources of protein, all vegetables, and fruit, along with natural grains and fibers. They use a lot of olive oil, extra virgin olive oil, but stay away from safflower, sunflower, corn, and canola oil. All these oils that are processed and refined are just not good for us. There’s nothing miraculous about it. They even consume a little bit of wine, which seems to be okay.

Believe it or not, it seems like genetically modified grains in North America cause reactions, but when you go to Europe and consume non-GMO foods, people seem to not react. Interestingly, someone could go on vacation, have a loaf of white bread in France, and not feel upset like they would in North America. In North America, they say to shop the perimeter of the grocery store where you find all your fruits, vegetables, meats, and dairy. As long as you’re not buying something from the shelves that lasts longer on a shelf than you can live, then you’re going to be okay.

Magazica: So, food with a very low shelf life is good for health.

Dr. David Koivuranta: Yeah, exactly. If food is processed and refined so it has a long shelf life and you consume it, it probably has something in it that’s not good for you.

Magazica: Preservatives, and all.

Dr. David Koivuranta: Exactly.

Magazica: Okay, and lastly, you briefly touched on this earlier. How do you see financial stress affecting health, especially considering the current economic situation?

Dr. David Koivuranta: Certainly, I’m not a financial expert, but with finances, I mean what someone can do to get the best return in their life. If it’s not money, then it’s time. They either have to take the time they have or make some time to leverage something that gives them a great return. For example, with groceries, the debate is that unhealthy foods are cheaper than healthy foods. That’s somewhat true, but not entirely accurate. We should spend our money on healthy things, regardless of our economic status. It’s not easy but starting builds momentum.

Your biggest investment should be in your health because the healthier you are, the better your mood, energy, and ability to avoid pain. This helps you accomplish what you want with your time and finances. Spending time on health means being active, getting enough sleep, and taking care of yourself. That may seem like a lofty concept, but that’s exactly how it works.

Magazica: Absolutely, I can’t agree more. One last question, what is your vision or dream you want to accomplish by the end of your journey?

Dr. David Koivuranta: My vision is that people got exposed to something I shared that empowered them to realize they were in control of a better outcome in their lives, especially through their health. Often, patients come in for neck or back pain and realize that their headaches, sleep, and energy improve with treatment. I hope that every interaction empowers someone to make choices that turn their whole life around.

Magazica: Empowering a healthy lifestyle for people. Fantastic.

Dr. David Koivuranta: Yes, and your platform plays a vital role in this process by providing accurate information and encouraging people to head in a good direction. That’s amazing.

Magazica: Thank you so much for your kind words. With that note, dear readers, we are ending one of our many podcasts with Dr. David. We will have him again to unpack more topics. Thank you for reading and listening. Thank you, Dr. David. We are forever grateful.

Dr. David Koivuranta: Thank you.